I’m not sure how many of you know this, but I was previously in Le Cordon Bleu Paris, where I completed my Basic Patisserie cert. Since then, I’ve gotten several emails & questions here and there about how classes were, accommodation and various other miscellaneous things.
Hence, I’ve decided to consolidate some of the questions which I felt were most pressing & also talk a bit about my experience. I actually did quite a bit of blogging while I was there (like a day-to-day compilation) so if you’re interested in reading about how I felt at that very point in time, then do hop over to Midi & Me. Basically, going to Le Cordon Bleu was something that I’d wanted to do for a very long time. To be honest, even though I enjoyed baking as a kid, I don’t think going to Pastry School was ever on my ‘must-do’ list of things. Yet, somehow growing up, it seemed like I really needed to go do this. & I cannot stress how lucky I am to have been able to go over and do at least the Basic course. Of course, completing the Intermediate and Advanced courses would’ve been more ideal. But I’m still in school & I’ll have to leave that to later! So, on to the questions!
There are many Le Cordon Bleu schools out there, why did you choose Paris?
For starters, Le Cordon Bleu Paris is where it all started. Doesn’t it seem great to be at the original place? Well, at least that’s what I thought! So Paris seemed like the ideal choice. Also, even though I’m in Singapore, going to the one in Malaysia (so much nearer) didn’t seem as enticing – possibly wouldn’t give that same real feeling.
On a more practical level, going to Paris would’ve been the only way for me to complete the Basic certificate in my Summer holidays. Ordinarily, this course should be three months, with probably a 3-day to 4-day work week. However, I signed up for the Intensive course, which meant classes on every single day except Sunday.
Do you learn less in the Intensive course since it is shorter?
No! The fact of the matter is that since the three months course is ‘slow’ and spreads it across a greater number of days. The only thing that is different is how intense it is. Yes, they’re not kidding when they say it is intensive. I had 8am – 8pm classes some days and classes from Monday-Saturday for four weeks. It’s fun & if you really love baking, then you won’t find it a pain at all. There were days when I’d go home exhausted, just wanting to sleep. And that’s probably what I ended up doing some days. Showering, eating dinner and just stumbling into bed. It’s not just physically exhausting (because there are no machines – yes, everything is done by hand) but mentally draining. So at the end of it, I still had 20 different lessons, went through the same classes as the ordinary course programme and, graduated with the same certificate.
What sort of accommodation does LCB provide?
Unfortunately, there is no accommodation of any sort. I had to source out my own accommodation and because I knew classes were going to be crazily intensive, I wanted some place that was going to be near to school. I found several rental places but these all required me to stay for at least 3 months. Airbnb became my best friend. I managed to find an apartment near the school that had all the amenities I needed – washing machine, stove, bed. It was also pretty near to four supermarkets (think less than 200m) so it was really good. The only downside is that housing in Paris is expensive. You can go have a look for yourself – you’ll find that any place will burn a slight hole in your pocket. I know some of my classmates lived out of Paris, traveling 1 hour ish to school daily. I wouldn’t recommend this at all because after paying so much for school fees, you wouldn’t want to risk the metro breaking down/bus not turning up & then being late for class & potentially not graduating!
Did you really do everything by hand?
Yes. I thought this was a joke. I mean it’s a school – shouldn’t you be more modern than that? Well, one of the chefs explained to me that LCB was first established very long ago & since the campus has not changed since, the rooms could not be renovated to accommodate the increasing number of students. Having machines etc. would take up more space. And since people were able to do it by hand from long ago, why shouldn’t students who are truly passionate about it be able to? It was a gym workout for all of us & also made me have biceps… I do feel that learning by hand did help me understand consistencies and everything better though! But if you ask me now, I’ll still choose my KitchenAid.
What is included in the course fees?
Well, basically you pay a single lump sum. You’ll get 1) Knife set – everything you need is in there, 2) three chef jackets + 2 pairs of pants + kitchen towels, 3) Storage box, 4) weighing scale. I think that’s about it. It’s really a lot of things & enough! The only thing is that this knife kit weighs 10kg. It’s super duper heavy & really expensive. I’ve read other blogs where people didn’t lock their lockers and found some of their knives missing 🙁
Do you speak French? How did you get by classes?
Nopes I do not speak a smattering of French. I went to Paris knowing how to say ‘Bonjour’ and ‘Merci’ and unfortunately, came back learning additional phrases to use in the supermarket + different baking ingredients like oeuf, beurre, sucre… Basically, classes are split into Demonstrations + Practicals. We had only 2 or 3 actual theory classes, if I remember correctly. In demonstrations (3 hours), the chef would make whatever we needed to do in the following practical class + more. I mean he’s the chef, right? So in one demo we could learn about an average of 4 different items. There would be a translator sitting at the side to say out everything that the chef had said, in English. It was not difficult at all. Although I did notice some of my classmates having difficulty fully concentrating (listening to both French & English for three hours can get very tiring). In practicals, there is no translator. So if you’re lucky, you’ll get a chef who speaks English. If you’re unlucky, you’ll get a chef who speaks English but refuses to speak in English. Haha, trust me, the French really love their language & they’d rather you learn. I guess after a while I started to understand a little bit but not being there for more than 5 weeks, and not being gutsy enough, it wasn’t really possible. All you need to do is listen during demonstrations & you’ll be able to do whatever you need to do in practical class the way it should be done. Not being able to communicate verbally with the chef should never be a problem. If you’d listened attentively, you wouldn’t need to ask for help. All you’d need to do is just get your work done!
Are you going to do the Intermediate/Advanced?
As I mentioned above, I’m still schooling – that makes it really difficult. However, if given the opportunity to complete it, I most definitely would. Not necessarily because I want to be a pastry chef but more because I want to challenge myself & expand my skill set. Well, that’s all the questions I can really think of that people asked me about. Feel free to comment below & I’ll try my best to get back to your queries, if you’ve got any 🙂
Love,
Eugenia
Hi there! I am Ann here. I will be leaving to Le Cordon Bleu Paris next January. Would you mind to share some advise on accommodation? Cause I have been searching so hard for an apartment near the school but not a single one was found. Please enlighten me, would really appreciate that . Thank you. 🙂
Hi Ann!
Hope my reply hasn’t come too late :S
I did my booking via airbnb because I was only there for a month.
I stayed here: https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/471193 and loved it. The only thing is that it’s on the ground floor so you can’t just open your windows as you sleep – but we managed that during summer haha.
You can probably check other airbnb links, if not, finding another one not in the 15th arrondissement and then taking the metro could be okay too. Although I really appreciated walking 800m just to go home daily!
Do let me know if you have any other queries 🙂
Hi @Ann Lee and Eugenia:) Was blog-walking and found this site. I’m also leaving for Paris for the Patisserie Diploma in January, perhaps we will be classmates? Dear Eugenia, do you have more useful tips for us?
hey i was thinking of the patisserie diploma at LCB Paris for this november – how was your experience and would you recommend the program? ive looked into other schools as well- any feed back would help-
thanks
Hey Natasha! I only did the Basic course but really liked it. I’m thinking of going back to do the Intermediate & Advanced later on in life haha. However, I do know that Ferrandi is very structured and you can complete more in that time frame. You may want to consider it!
Hello Eugenie, I had the same question that Ann Lee asked. And was pleasantly surprised that you stayed at that airbnb option – it was #1 on my shortlist : )
I wasn’t sure about it being a ground floor unit though. Was it as noisy as some other reviewers had claimed?
Like you, I am also taking up the Summer intensive basic patisserie course (2015). I know the schedule is grueling – how often did classes end at 930pm? Any advice you can offer about the course? : ) I’m looking forward but also fearing the unexpected! Thanks heaps!!
Cheers,
Linda
Hey Linda,
haha that’s quite a coincidence!
It didn’t really bother me – probably cause I was so exhausted from everything.
I just needed to shower before I’d fall asleep really soundly haha.
For the first few days, it took me a while to fall asleep – there was some noise that I wasn’t used to. But since it was a ground floor unit, I left the windows closed, so it wasn’t exactly noisy. I’d say it may be better to look for a non-ground floor alternative though! In the heat of summer, at night, it got really warm & all we had was a small fan that Monica provided. We couldn’t open the window cos we were on the ground floor.
It wasn’t often but it really depends on which class you’re in 🙂
Can’t help but feel super excited for you!
Thanks so much for your response, Eugenie! Think I shall heed your advice and hunt around for a non-ground floor unit 🙂 Must say the 800m away from LCB is such a tempting factor.
Oh, also want to say you remind me of that famous patisserie chef, Janice Wong – you guys look kinda similar ;)) Really admire your passion and energy – wishing you all the best!!
Thank you once again…
Aw thanks for the compliment Linda!
Hopefully I’ll be as big as Janice Wong one day 😉
Anyway, decided to airbnb hop a bit more and found some apartments which may interest you!
https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/2058623?s=bmqI
https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/3285895?s=bmqI
https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/1854518?s=bmqI
https://www.airbnb.com.sg/rooms/3722571?s=bmqI
Some are shared and others the entire place.
Any apartment near Vaugirard/Convention station shouldn’t be too far from school for you 🙂
How did you like your experience at LCB? I start in Jan – am excited and a bit nervous 🙂
Hey Natasha! I loved it 🙂 The chefs can be pretty nasty once in a while, but it makes the learning experience so rich! You’ll also meet a lot of like-minded individuals along the way & I’m sure that’ll add to the wonderful experience, just like it did for me.
Thanks for the links! I did find one earlier at Convention area 🙂 cheers.
How many practical , hands on hours did you say you got from the basic pastry? I was comparing hours and the LCB doesn’t seem like an adequate amount for the price-
Hey Natasha!
I can’t really remember right now, it’s been two plus years already.
What I do remember, however, is that for every demonstration, there was a practical. And this tended to last for 3 hours each. I think it was 20 demos & 20 practicals!
Hi Eugenia , Im starting Le Cordon Bleu January 5 and I was reading your blog , do you mind sharing how the teachers are ? , if I don’t speak french will it be hard to comunicate with my teachers and most of all how is life at cordon bleu ? I would appreciate if you could help me with this information
I just got back after a year in Paris .. I did Lcb and Bellouet conseil! It was the most awesome experience. Everyone speaks English … everywhere! They love Americans in Paris! Everyone at Lcb speaks English – it’s the most fun time you will have! Please don’t hesitate to email me with anything I could help you with.
Yes! I was telling Daniela that I’ll be back in LCB this January & that everything will be fine 🙂
Glad you enjoyed yourself – I’m excited for the next few months too heh.
I’ll be back for my internship feb 15 – we must all meet for a coffee 🙂
Definitely 🙂 Msg again when you’ve settled in!
I’m soooo excited for you gals ❤
Hi Eugenia and Natasha
I am about to start the intensive pastry course in September-Mar and super excited & nervous!
Eugenia, your post is brilliant. It definitely helps a lot of us who are about to start and need a bit of guidance! I do have a question though, did either of you practice when you got home?
I am currently looking for accommodation and super confused whether I need a place with an oven so that I can practice. I am not even sure if I will have the energy to practice once I am home. Anyway, I was looking on AirBnB and none of them seem to have an oven.
Thank you!!!
I’m so sorry I totally missed out on this comment. Hope you’ve been having an amazing time in Paris thus far!